So say the 31000+ Scientists..

We urge the United States government to reject the global warming agreement that was written in Kyoto, Japan in December, 1997, and any other similar proposals. The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology, and damage the health and welfare of mankind.

There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth’s atmosphere and disruption of the Earth’s climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.

Michael Mann Proven Data Manipulator

Who is Michael Man?

He is the fellow behind AL Gore’s hockey stick graph that shows a (a manipulated stretch of the truth) alarming upswing in global warming.

However on a closer look it can be can be concluded that..the current warming trend is not unusual or alarming, nor unique, and certainly not justifiable to spend trillions of world taxpayers dollars on.

Source: Understanding Climategate’s Hidden Decline by Marc Sheppard,

Or get the song version…


UN Scientists vs UN Scientists

Source: CLIMATE CHANGE FOR DUMMIES by Prof. Will Alexander, S. African UN Scientist.

…”Science is being manipulated for political purposes. Now, at Copenhagen, the wellbeing of tens of millions of people on this planet is based on this manipulated science.

As you will see, there is simply no way that the Copenhagen objectives can be successfully applied in the developing countries of Africa, regardless of any donations of money or technology. The only way that I can retain my sanity is by developing a sense of humour.”…

Carbon Tax: How does it work ?

How would a world carbon tax work?

Short Answer : Just like GST/VAT, but worse.

Why is it worse, easy. GST is set at fixed rate by the NZ Government. The carbon rate would be set based on a valuation of carbon emissions of each and every individual activity,  the rate would sensitive to fluctuations in valuation. The valuation of the rate would be very contentious. Don’t believe me consider the current rates applied to ACC activities.

For example if the NZ Govt set the carbon tax on cars at 2%, but the World Carbon Council said that it was too low, and insisted that it be raised to 5%, and if NZ failed to do so our export products would downgraded from AAA to -AAA ( just like credit agencies). This would have a negative price effect upon our export value. This is how the ‘World Carbon Council’ would enforce its international carbon tax agreement.  This unelected body would be all powerful and have the ability to crush the living standard of many NZders.. Do you think this country leadership see this eventuality, do you think Greenpeace cares about you..of course not !

A carbon debit activity would seek a carbon credit activity to offset it, and after the summation of the total carbon activity you would see the deficit (debit) or the surplus (credit) be exchange with another party of the opposite account.

How would the ‘World Carbon Council’ react to this..

Source: Foreigners join fight over ‘cows in cubicles’ proposal

…”16 new dairy farms, with up to 17,850 cows in cubicles, in the Omarama and Ohau areas is resulting in a flood of submissions into Environment Canterbury.”..

COMMENTS:  Just imagine, 10 years from now, and the international opposition not only objected to the above investment, but insisted that the carbon tax on this type of business carry a extra 5% penalty ( or whatever).  NZ sovereignty would be powerless to stop as World Carbon council may threaten to down grade NZ Dairy farms and demand a higher NZ wide carbon tax collection.

Are you the reader thinker far enough into the future on how this all powerful world carbon council could be ??

CO2: Where does it go ?

CO2 does go into the atmosphere from the planet and has done for 1000’s of years. 

But where does it go ?

1) Well the ozone plays a role in this, the ozone swings from thin to thick (remember the ozone scare a few years back), and when its thin the CO2 escapes into space ! And there is plenty of space to go around !

2) The ocean and small sea life soak up a huge percentage of CO2.

3) Plants.

Its as simple as that !

This does not mean that this blog support human pollution. Please read the ‘Why?’ pages. Thanks.

More foolish outlandish claims !

Source: Missing Mac? Key must be serious  – Fran OSullivan

…”the Government’s own advice is that climate change will be more of a problem – not less of a problem. Key’s advice is the implications are likely to hit the world faster and with more severity: “The latest advice: if you go to the Arctic circle in 20 years’ time over summer there would be no ice.”…

COMMENTS: Compare the 20091209 statement to this …

Source: HERE



The world has been sucked into this scam many times…dont let the bastards trick you again and take your money/freedom.

Which science group should examine climate?

Source: Scientist drilling off NZ drills IPCC

…”Today, Prof Carter argued that the study of climate change had been “captured” by the small group of well-connected, well-networked and well-funded atmospheric scientists and computer modellers who advise the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

He claimed that the course of climate history and change on Earth should be the domain of geologists, “not meteorologists and computer jockeys”. 

Today, Prof Carter argued that the study of climate change had been “captured” by the small group of well-connected, well-networked and well-funded atmospheric scientists and computer modellers who advise the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

He claimed that the course of climate history and change on Earth should be the domain of geologists, “not meteorologists and computer jockeys“.”…


COMMENTS: If you  require the last year or the next then that would be meteorologists.

If you require the last 500 or 2,000 years then that would be geologists. Why, the data found in rocks and the like is more of a truth and historic time line of the plant events than meteorologists computer models. ( Just ask Wall Street about there Sub Prime computer models, how well did that do in 2008?) 

Therefore NIWA using 100 year data from ships placing a bucket over the side to read the top 12 inches of the ocean temperature, would seam to me be very weak science to send $100,000,000 NZD p.a to a UN body…

Once again climate warming/change ‘junk’ science tag sticks.

More here : NIWA – Using Ship hands to measure Temperature

TV1: Wishart vs Morgan :20091208

Issue: Is global warming man made ?

Morgan : Affirmative

Wishart : Negative

Both agreed that the science on the subject was not settled. That’s an understatement

Morgan continually said ‘on balance’ of the science available at the end of 2008, that global warming was man made.  Morgan analysis is a excellent example of how an phD in economics would answer, however science is not determined on a 51% to 49% win rate (nor 75% to 25%). After all would you take a new drug if you were told that the drug has a 51% success rate ! 

Science does NOT work with balances, it works with defined clear black and white results. That can be independently verfied over and over again. Unlike economics, which can be more of an art form.

So would you like your government to send your tax dollars to an overseas world exchange or government on a fifty fifty call ?? Of course not !

Morgan did concede that ‘using a hammer to crush a chest nut’ should be a very big warning. So I feel ever Morgan is not sold on the idea !

Home run to Wishart !

Climate change criminals identified…

Here are the worst criminals for climate change/global warming (whatever), if you see them please notify law enforcement !


The Sun: Wanted dead or alive ! $20,000 USD


El Nino: Wanted dead or alive $15,000 USD


Volcanic Eruptions: Wanted dead or alive $5,000

Released : Man made CO2, until evidence suggests other wise.

USA MIT Meteorology Professor: His Case !

Watch these YouTube Videos for the truth..There are 6 videos.

In the last video he says the ..”climate science field is corrupt, you have a community of scientists that are not interested in science”…

Its true, the world can be hood winked!

Source: Obama’s timing boosts hope for major deal on emissions

…”The Copenhagen summit is set to do “real business” because of President Barack Obama’s decision to attend its crucial final stage, says Climate Change Minister Nick Smith.

Dr Smith said the summit was rapidly gaining momentum, with 105 world leaders now signed up for the final day.”…

..”Dr Smith said the mantra of his negotiating team was “for New Zealand to do its fair share” to stop global warming. “Not more, not less, but our fair share towards a global solution.”

He said recent efforts by climate-change sceptics to discredit the work of leading meteorologists ahead of the summit, including hacking computers, was “a bit of a sideshow”.

The first week of the fortnight-long summit will mainly involve officials, before environment ministers like Dr Smith arrive next week.

Dr Smith said the growing numbers of world leaders signing up for the final stage meant there would be “enormous pressure” to deliver up a deal.”..

COMMENTS:This will be proven over time as one the dumbest things a NZ politican has ever done. Dr Nick Smith will join Max ‘Power prices wont go up’ Bradford as the ‘King Of Stupid’ !

Question: Has the world been hood winked before ?
1) 1916: We are off to war, it will be over by xmas ( streets of London)
2) 1938: Hitler will not invade europe (Uk prime minster Neville Chamberlain)
3) 1975: By there year 2000 there will be a new ice age (Newsweek April 28, 1975).
4) 2000: The world will stop Y2K, computer date issue.

Sure it has, and now the Greenpeace (and now their IPCC Scientist) communists will most likely have there biggest win ever. That is until Obama is fired !

The real scare behind CO2

The truth…

• Reid Bryson has been considered as “the father of scientific climatology”. He passed away in 2008, aged 88, and one of his observations was: “If you want to be an eminent scientist you have to have grad students and a lot of grants. You can’t get grants unless you say, ‘Oh, global warming, yes, yes, carbon dioxide.'”

Phil Jones is the Director of the CRU and the man at the heart of Climategate. According to one of the documents from his center, between 2000 and 2006 Mr. Jones was the recipient (or co-recipient) of some $19 Million worth of research grants.”


NIWA – Using Ship hands to measure Temperature

Source: Temperatures in NZ warmed 1degc since 1931 – Niwa

Are you kidding me..”A 1995 study identified an upward trend of about 0.7degC from 1900 to 1993 in night time minimum air temperatures measured from ships over the ocean surrounding New Zealand.”..

COMMENTS: Trusting a un educated minor ship hand to drop a bucket over the side of a ship to read the temperature, thats good science.

So 1 degree warming, do you wonder what El Nino effect there was, did they take that into account.

I suggest you read this …

The 3300 Argo bathythermograph buoys deployed throughout the world’s oceans since late in 2003 have shown a slight cooling of the oceans over the past five years, directly contrary to the official theory that any “global warming” not showing in the atmosphere would definitely show up in the first 400 fathoms of the world’s oceans, where at least 80% of any surplus heat would be stored. Source: ARGO project, June 2009.